tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post3773232630072455675..comments2024-03-28T11:44:55.518+05:30Comments on Design for India: Directors at NID: A Time to ReflectProf. M P Ranjanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14087205148848576540noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-61921146251124919042009-07-16T17:00:54.878+05:302009-07-16T17:00:54.878+05:30Just came across this one, guess I have been absco...Just came across this one, guess I have been absconding from the usual forums like Design India and Facebook.<br /><br />I loved looking at the pics, a younger NID and of course a young MPR! I think I did spot Aditi in there too ;-) Its remarkable, thank you for taking us down memory lane - you balance of the personal and the objective bits - of history, fact and points of view is, as always, articulate, refreshing and welcome.JDhttp://designisaverb.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-15757140648184066912009-05-12T22:21:00.000+05:302009-05-12T22:21:00.000+05:30hi ranjan,
hope u r doing good.
thnx for sharing...hi ranjan,<br /><br />hope u r doing good.<br /><br />thnx for sharing such a beautiful part of NID history..........<br /><br />best rgds/ kanupriyaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883791517026974016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-13146747819234677302009-05-12T22:19:00.000+05:302009-05-12T22:19:00.000+05:30hi ranjan, hope u doing good.........thnx for shar...hi ranjan, hope u doing good.........thnx for sharing such a beautiful part of NID history........<br /><br />best regards/ kanupriyaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883791517026974016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-67714326559737669302009-05-07T15:28:00.000+05:302009-05-07T15:28:00.000+05:30Dear Ranjan,
Sincere thanks for putting up this i...Dear Ranjan,<br /><br />Sincere thanks for putting up this informative article about the history of NID in relation to it's executive heads. This documentation would certainly enlighten at least those who doesn't know much about the Institute's history and the kind of culture we once had. I'm hopeful that with a new director who shares a similar heritage with the rest of NID fraternity, things would improve one by one, bit by bit. <br /><br />Cheers! <br />Abhishek Shrivastava<br />New Media 2005-7About Abhishekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01863672011774611050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-81245614482660795432009-04-30T13:26:00.000+05:302009-04-30T13:26:00.000+05:30Hi Ranjan and all the readers.
NID has a history,...Hi Ranjan and all the readers.<br /><br />NID has a history, and it is good enough to get nostalgic about it. But, in this whole nostalgia, we forget the present status of NID (let this not be mistaken as an outlet or a vent of anger, but I am trying to reach out to all who read this post, through this well-established platform).<br /><br />With all our great traditions in their own place, why should an institute like NID go to ruins? Why should the students lose the much needed 'design perspective'? Why should the relationships between students and faculty or even between faculty become so bitter?<br /><br />Behind all the present news articles and the so-called great achievements of our institute, lies a different world altogether, where a severe lack of the understanding of good design education and a designerly perspective is felt at the very core; where faculty (I dare say) are involved in so much 'political' behaviour that they lose out on the much needed thing - giving design education; where despite over-industrialisation and the mass-production systems having brought the current recession on the world, we still want to cater to the industry following what THEY want rather than change their perspective into something holistic...etc. etc....the list can go on.<br /><br />And our incapacity to put design in an 'essence' became very obvious, when Mr. Rahul Gandhi came to our campus, asking us that ONE thing that he might take to New Delhi with him to promote Design and NID, and we could not give it.<br /><br />So with all due respect to our beloved Institute, but NID's history sadly has become a matter of reference of great traditions, simply because neither did the people have the courage to carry them on and refine them to excellence, nor did they have the non-selfish attitude of looking beyond themselves and actually serving to the cause of design.<br /><br />Ranjan, thanks a lot for this platform, so we all can share what we observe and feel, without having the need to be politically correct.Adityanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-20240347396971705892009-04-29T19:55:00.000+05:302009-04-29T19:55:00.000+05:30Hello Ranjan,
Will you please write a book on wha...Hello Ranjan,<br /><br />Will you please write a book on what you feel,pedestal with your analysis?! I am honored to have you as a teacher. <br />:)<br />MilannMilannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-48923324130119321092009-04-29T13:44:00.000+05:302009-04-29T13:44:00.000+05:30Hi Ranjan,
That was a great read! The old photos(...Hi Ranjan,<br /><br />That was a great read! The old photos(and the blog post) provide a nice glimpse into NID's evolution as a design school...<br /><br />PrasantPrasant Sivadasannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-30097172805728379762009-04-29T12:14:00.000+05:302009-04-29T12:14:00.000+05:30Dear Ranjan,
Thanks a lot for the great review an...Dear Ranjan,<br /><br />Thanks a lot for the great review and such a lot of information. i myself have read the unpublished manuscripts and the other documents here as a part of my research for a particular classroom project at NID.. but it feels great to read all of it..<br />one also feels great to be a part of this institute with such great legacy.<br />I do support Rustom's comments about how Koshy ruined the institute of its great past and vision set by stalwarts in design when NID started.<br />PV is really welcome by the everyone on campus and we all have great expectations from him. <br />i hope the curriculum review remains at the top of the to do list as mentioned by him in the press.<br />we also hope that SAC gets a little more say and power in the administrative and academic. <br />We are all ready and welcome to the change!<br /><br />regards,<br /><br />Vivek ShethVivek Shethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-91491803768375544362009-04-29T09:13:00.000+05:302009-04-29T09:13:00.000+05:30Directors at NID: Comments on Facebook
I posted a...Directors at NID: Comments on Facebook<br /><br />I posted a link on my Facebook page about this blog post on NID’s Directors and there has been a rich response from the comments there which I am quoting below;<br />M P Ranjan <br />29 April 2009<br /><br />MPR: April 24 at 12:30am<br />I have just posted on my blog long note on NID Directors on Design for India.<br /><br />Ashish Deshmukh at 3:07am April 24<br />Many thanks MP. <br />So much for passion.<br />One can walk the bridge to feel the heritage of NID.<br /><br />Vishpala Hundekari at 9:05am April 24<br />This is just superb heritage walk.. Thanks a lot Ranjan<br /><br />Sanjiva Prasad at 9:59am April 24<br />Prof. Ranjan: About the Vice-Admiral Soman controversy, there is a Library of Congress exhibit on the Eames couple, in which a letter from my father to Charles Eames is displayed which discusses the controversy. Perhaps you have already seen it...<br /><br />http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/eames/images/vcc18a.jpg<br /><br />Rupesh Patange at 11:09am April 24<br />Wow .. I loved the article.. WOW<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 11:18am April 24<br />Dear Sanjiva<br /><br />I have had this paper for quite some time now but I am always curious about what was on the other side of the page and about what could have been Eames' reply! I suppose some historian will find out and let us all know.<br /><br />Divya Pathak Bahukhandi at 11:23am April 24<br />Thanks Ranjan. Its a great account of the various phases at NID. I really hope Great things happen again and the golden age returns!<br /><br />Sanjiva Prasad at 1:21pm April 24<br />Dear Prof. Ranjan: I wonder too. The original letter in in the Library of Congress archives (Eames collection), and should therefore be accessible via a request. What Charles Eames replied does not seem to be in my father's personal letters; it must be in the PMO archives. Or in the Indira Gandhi papers, if he wrote directly to her. <br /><br />Clearly the outcome was the series of committees including the one headed by Romesh Thapar, culminating in the search for a new director, resulting in Ashoke Chatterjee's appointment. <br /><br />AC spoke a bit about the circumstances of his appointment and personal aspects of my father's role in NID in his talk at the memorial meeting for my father on 25-9-2008 at IIC. I can send you an mpeg file of that talk.<br /><br />In return, can I somehow get hold of transcripts of the Convocation speeches given by my father as NID chairperson and even earlier? We don't have copies of them surprisingly.<br /><br />Sanjiva Prasad at 1:22pm April 24<br />I forgot to add: great article. Personal and subjective in style, yet objective in giving the big picture.<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 3:07pm April 24<br />Dear Sanjiva<br /><br />I located the second page of the letter from your father just by a bit of detective work, deduction from the http string:<br />The first page is this one:<br />< http://www.loc.gov/exhibit<br /><br />s/eames/images/vcc18a.jpg><br />and the second page I just changed the last character from "18a" to "18b"...<br />< http://www.loc.gov/exhibit<br /><br />s/eames/images/vcc18b.jpg><br /><br />I can send you the published version of the convocation speeches if you send me your postal address and I can mail it immediately.<br /><br />Yes, the voice file of AC's speach would be very interesting indeed. Plesae send it by "YouSendIt.com" if possible.<br /><br />With warm regards<br /><br />M P Ranjan<br />from my office at NID<br />24 April 2009 at 3.05 pm IST<br /><br />Sanjiva Prasad at 5:49pm April 24<br />Fantastic. Never thought of changing the last letter of the URL -- I didn't actually read the URL. You probably knew Nirmaljit Singh, who is mentioned on the second page -- who was ambassador to Venezuela etc.; Premalya, his wife, is a sculptor.<br /><br />Akila Seshasayee at 7:31pm April 24<br />Ranjan, what a pleasure. And I just loved looking at the photographs.<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 8:21pm April 24<br />Dear Sanjiva<br /><br />I got greedy and tried all the alphabets and combinations after I got through the first time but in vain!! Could not figure out the naming logic in the URL...<br /><br />Yes, the second page was personal and for me it had new insights since I worked on the 1972 Nehru Exhibition with Vikas for the New Delhi launch in November 1972 and later on the 1973 version in Chile with Dashrat Patel in January 1973 when we met President Alande in person at Santiago and it makes a lot of sense, the extended history wall.<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 8:26pm April 24<br />Dear Akhila<br /><br />Great to hear from you. Yes, the pictures bring back a whole lot of memories. Images can do just that. Yes. The big tree is now even bigger. Remember?<br /><br />Vivienne Lucksom at 10:51pm April 24<br />Hear, hear Ranjan! Thank you for this glimpse of NID. You bridge the personal and the bird's eye view remarkably well.<br /><br />Amit Krishn Gulati at 12:48am April 25<br />Ranjan...this has the makings of an epic and enjoyable history and hope you can drive the process of documenting 50 years of design at NID...look forward to more on this front<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 6:42am April 25<br />Dear Amit<br /><br />My intentions were to document and comment and it started a while before the blog itself which is now about a 120 posts deep, earlier posts started with my posts on PhD-Design and other lists which include another 100 posts by now. Now we need to get our alumni to pitch in and share their stories and not just case studies and this needs a platform and the time is right for that to happen.<br /><br />Ranjan MP at 6:47am April 25<br />Dear Divya<br /><br />Great to hear from you. Where have you been?<br /><br />Chandrashekhar Bheda at 8:25am April 25<br />Dear Ranjan, this is Wonderful! history of NID, museum and a publication of this documentation with more contributions from all for 50 years celebration....<br /><br />Meghna Ajit at 9:31am April 25<br />Dear Ranjan,<br />Thankyou for this amazing fact file.Prof. M P Ranjanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14087205148848576540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-56537205959530726682009-04-29T00:34:00.000+05:302009-04-29T00:34:00.000+05:30Dear Ranjan,
It was so great of you to put up this...Dear Ranjan,<br />It was so great of you to put up this post.<br />Thank you so much for sharing your experiences through the time. <br /><br />A remarkable read.<br />muzayunmuzayunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-38208513070359331772009-04-28T18:41:00.000+05:302009-04-28T18:41:00.000+05:30Hi Ranjan, it is a shame that under Koshy, NID was...Hi Ranjan, it is a shame that under Koshy, NID was absolutely ruined - there is no polite term for it. from a students perspective, we would constantly bring up problems, issues and propose solutions, which like all things, fell on deaf ears. If anything, I can give it to you in writing how strongly students felt against Koshy and his 'cream coated' ways, dictatorial policies, absolute non recognition of a student base, disrespect for real faculty, and most of all - the atrocious naming of various labs! <br /><br />I am optimistic the worst is past and that we shall head for a brighter future with PV's welcoming attitude. However, we cannot simply rewind 20 years. I believe to start of with, students, the SAC should be given a little more respect and power - with at least a minority say in everything within the institute. This way, we can slowly bring back faculty forums, consultative forums etc and hold everybody accountable for their actions. Hopefully, this will soon rid the institute of is 'chalta hai' attitude and its joke of an education and credit and evaluation system.<br /><br />It is really difficult to keep motivating myself and I hope my junior batches do not feel dejected and short-changed.Rustom Mazdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12628539693689540326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-51043234399760887852009-04-26T12:56:00.000+05:302009-04-26T12:56:00.000+05:30Hi Ranjan,
It is a very interesting read about the...Hi Ranjan,<br />It is a very interesting read about the history of the top brass at NID. Its amazing how much we are unaware about - as students and now as faculty around campus. <br /><br />Thanks for charting it all down so beautifully.Shweta Dhariwalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-53424006610853305262009-04-25T19:35:00.000+05:302009-04-25T19:35:00.000+05:30It’s great to see such a collective post about NID...It’s great to see such a collective post about NID. It’s so amazingly jotted down. Thanks Ranjan for sharing the same :)<br /><br />Looking forward to the progress of NID with the new Director.Paavanihttp://www.paavani.innoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-44618164983779163882009-04-25T12:50:00.000+05:302009-04-25T12:50:00.000+05:30thanks ranjan for writting such a wonderful piece ...thanks ranjan for writting such a wonderful piece of masterpiece. I strongly feel the lowest tip of the graph is behind us now, its high time to move into high gear of implementation and execution.For this both the alumni and ex faculty members have to join hands to bring in more experience, new dimensions and quality which NID is famous for.saikat duttahttp://saikatnextd.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-23444886710335178182009-04-25T02:19:00.000+05:302009-04-25T02:19:00.000+05:30Thanks Ranjan, for sharing this very significant i...Thanks Ranjan, for sharing this very significant information on NID/Indian design history (I am not sure if any other exists, would love to get enlightened on that if it is).<br />Not being from the institute & having worked from far for you on one of the projects, i knew very less about NID & your association with it. So that's also been an eye opener for me here.Pankaj Aroranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-24878628242726555952009-04-25T00:21:00.000+05:302009-04-25T00:21:00.000+05:30Thank you for the informative read Ranjan. The who...Thank you for the informative read Ranjan. The whole story is well put within these few words and makes you realise the course of events through time.<br /><br />I really hope Mr Pradyumna Vyas will bring about a freshness and transparency which has been missing for long. <br /><br />Priyanka<br />P.S: The note on the stainless steel name boards is quite amusing!Baliyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14763307677864205243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-18427253236852502812009-04-24T20:21:00.000+05:302009-04-24T20:21:00.000+05:30Hello Sir
this has been a nice article but apart...Hello Sir <br /><br />this has been a nice article but apart from history nid has some serious issues to address , when i was a <br />student of product design , i felt that in NID product design department took a back seat , when we go in the indusrty we cannot stand upto the competition from IITs and IISCs , those guys have less creativity i agree but they have some really good execution skills both physical as well as virtual , we can only imagine but they are good at making it , <br /><br />most of their aluminis have started their own design firms while very few almost negligible amount have started product design firms , those who have also arent doing so well <br /><br />In NID visual communication is given more preference and Product design takes a back seat , <br /><br />i have not written this to create a tehelka but as a feedback to you from my experience <br /><br />i hope u will train future nidians better so they can cope up with professional challenges better <br /><br />doing a job in companies like LG is good but what we have to ask ourselves is how many IDEOs has NID created <br /><br />we dont want sucess to be measured in terms of jobs but in terms of entreprenual startups <br /><br />very few product designers have their own start ups <br /><br />NID product design faculty should really start teaching Softwares like PRO E and Solidworks as they are industry standards and we have to work within these constraints <br /><br />NIdians are very creative thats for sure , NID education has given me a solid base , but execution of projects has to be worked on i feel <br /><br />I hope with Pradyumna as ED , more efforts will be made to strenghthen product design , after all thats true design <br /><br />SushrutSushruthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861343919946632143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-25749363690732182282009-04-24T17:09:00.000+05:302009-04-24T17:09:00.000+05:30An awesome read. Thanks for taking the effort to c...An awesome read. Thanks for taking the effort to collate this.Manish Govind Pillewarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589577730000116507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-44690376974809843942009-04-24T16:21:00.000+05:302009-04-24T16:21:00.000+05:30Thank you for this Ranjan, really.
The link to th...Thank you for this Ranjan, really.<br /><br />The link to the downloadable pdf of NID Milestones seems to be missing.<br /><br />I do hope that Prof. Pradyumna as the new director will bring about some changes in what I found (this time round) to be a very dormant atmosphere at NID. <br /><br />Charting the history of NID is a great idea indeed and I hope students will be given the opportunity to be involved in the project.Shreyashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00837454651266512433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-55165749931127480242009-04-24T13:41:00.000+05:302009-04-24T13:41:00.000+05:30Ranjan -- you are a gem for focusing this historic...Ranjan -- you are a gem for focusing this historical lens on the leadership of NID. Wishing you all well from afar.Meena Kadrihttp://www.randomspecific.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-1236197463571700672009-04-24T11:31:00.000+05:302009-04-24T11:31:00.000+05:30Wow! there's so much we didn't know about this pla...Wow! there's so much we didn't know about this place. Thanks.Shivani Gakharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07081477339529572174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-390353998993233885.post-7304190537610229402009-04-24T10:33:00.000+05:302009-04-24T10:33:00.000+05:30Thanks Ranjan for taking the effort and sharing su...Thanks Ranjan for taking the effort and sharing such significant information about NID. Regards SanchariSanchari Mahapatrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615390360144470162noreply@blogger.com